Platos Kave

So.. rattling that cage huh? 

J(, kudos to you.

Oh wow hi there! Yeah I'm just in here messing around mainly. These guys have gotten pretty good at being enlightened but I was never really interested in that so much as figuring things out here in the real world so I'm just kinda bored here. Not purposely causing trouble. Would love to catch up sometime.

Said I was going to ask a few questions/comments to Plato and Mic, but have decided to just let sleeping dogs lie. J) you sound like me more all the time. When something doesn’t make sense, you shoot the arrow right through it. It all sounds good on paper until one applies it personally, and then, somehow the two never match up. Although the cult says, like this email I got the other day, quoting Nis: That which makes you think you are human is not human. It is a dimensionless point of consciousness, a conscious nothing; all you can say about yourself is 'I am.' You are pure being-awareness-bliss. To realize that is the end of seeking. You come to it when you see all you think yourself to be as mere imagination and stand aloof in pure awareness….

When I asked the writer if this is what he realizes, his reply was,  “years ago, I said humbly”.
It’s always humble, years ago, which is why he doesn’t quote himself.

Well I would just say that I appreciate your willingness to just talk about your experience honestly without a bunch of pretense. I am always interested in talking with people and hearing about their experiences but I have to speak up when I sense dishonesty.

I think a lot of what jeds talks about is valuable as well as a lot of other things you learn about yourself and reality if you're of that exploritory nature but I just find it weird that people come in here, regurgitate something they read in a book and go cold when you talk to them or ask them to think for themselves. Ask some one how they feel about being themselves and they just bug out. It's weird and boring. But yes can't really say I have much use for anything that doesn't line up here in the real world. Never been a big fan of fiction although it can be entertaining.

PS you do remind me of someone. Doesn't matter.

I don't feel very welcomed. I thought this was a forum in the spirit of Jed McKenna, but I guess I was wrong.

Well sh*t. Tried to talk to you as straight as possible. Opened up to you personally. Even sang you a song but you prefer Jed stuff. I don't often "feel very welcomed" in general but I don't really let that be dependent on other people.. I kinda be confident in my own being and presence. You should try it.

If all else fails the n just fall back on this...

If... (as Jed and a well known nursery rhyme says) Life is but a dream
And... Everything in a dream is not real
Then... Life is not real

That means: every thing in life is not real, including "the world" and "you" and "me" and whatever we do to each other or ourselves or the environment or whatever. "Accepting what is", to me, simply means that you accept that it is all a dream, an illusion, and it therefore does not matter enough to upset you. You do not get angry, because it's not really real. This, to me, is all "accepting what is" means: you do not take things personally and it cannot effect your inner peace.

How are you? How are things?

Im well. Enjoying my bottle of prisoner wine. It's a beautiful day here in Sheridan. Couldn't be happier with things. Got my daughter all ready for soccer next month. She needs a break from jiu jitsu. Got some help at work so that's cool. Im on point going into spring in the gym. The only one who does what I do at work. Damn. Nice to just realize when consistency pays off. I dreamed of the life I'm living. Hope nothing less for y'all Jed fans!

Here I brought you a song I think is cool sorry...

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NGS655KAf8o&si=El6znenynWuctSvj

I don't mean to be insensitive Kristen. Im a straight shooter and like to discuss reality and creation but you may devote whatever you like to Jed Mckenna. I'm just not terribly interested in that.

Well hello and welcome to the conversation! I was attempting to have you define some terms for me but Im kinda already clear that you're somewhat confused about reality and that's usually how these conversations go with the "enlightened" so as you were... In MY dream I identify  as a large pink elephant and you may call me Edward. Have a nice dream

Any reason why you'd object to lighting yourself on fire Kristen?

Doesn't seem like a difficult question.