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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 21, 2026, 06:28:58 pm »
I don't feel very welcomed. I thought this was a forum in the spirit of Jed McKenna, but I guess I was wrong.
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 21, 2026, 11:59:42 am »You don't die in a dream Kristen. You wake up. Unfortunately for you this is not a dream and I think you have a pretty good idea of that which is why you don't light yourself on fire like an idiot.
Well, of course it's not me who dies, it's the body I use to play my part in the dream that dies. But either way, the dream ends, and I like my dream, so therefore I do not set myself on fire in the dream. So really, you've proven no point. All you do is reassure yourself that you are real and that you exist, and to do that, you need to be right and I need to be wrong.
But that's cool, you're free to choose that path. It's a fear based path, of course, and deep down inside you know that. This is why you react the way you react to someone like me who basically tells you that you don't really exist. But again, that's cool. I was only trying to bring another perspective into the conversation before you lashed on to me.
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 21, 2026, 12:42:12 am »Any reason why you'd object to lighting yourself on fire Kristen?
Doesn't seem like a difficult question.
Because it would end the dream. In the dream, the body would die and therefore ending the dream, or at least my experiencing the dream. Why would I want to do that? Sure, I could jump of a skyscraper, but why? Just to proof something? What would I proof? Nothing, because in YOUR part of the dream I would die, because that's the proof YOU want to see in YOUR part of the dream. So it would proof nothing and MY part of the dream would end. That would be stupid. I like MY part of the dream.
And you're right, it's not a difficult question. But it's a really stupid question, so that's why I asked for a clarification.
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 20, 2026, 01:35:45 pm »Maybe it's the fire, it's too much. How about on coming traffic? Would you ever go sit on the highway and type this diddy?If... (as Jed and a well known nursery rhyme says) Life is but a dream
And... Everything in a dream is not real
Then... Life is not real
every thing in life is not real, including "the world" and "you" and "me" and whatever we do to each other or ourselves or the environment or whatever. "Accepting what is", to me, simply means that you accept that it is all a dream, an illusion, and it therefore does not matter enough to upset you.
Yes or no?
Why would I do that?
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 19, 2026, 03:59:31 pm »
Oh, and I forgot to answer your question "But what if I DO get angry? That cool or naw?" Yes, that is cool too, because that is what is and I accept that. But do you want to be angry? Do you actually like to be angry? Because there is a way to not be angry.
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 19, 2026, 03:53:50 pm »If... (as Jed and a well known nursery rhyme says) Life is but a dream
And... Everything in a dream is not real
Then... Life is not real
That means: every thing in life is not real, including "the world" and "you" and "me" and whatever we do to each other or ourselves or the environment or whatever. "Accepting what is", to me, simply means that you accept that it is all a dream, an illusion, and it therefore does not matter enough to upset you. This does not mean you don't react to it, or take action against it (you can do that if you choose so, or you choose not to, and both choices are cool — that is also what is). It only means that, whatever the outcome of your reaction or actions, or the lack of it, you accept it for what it is. You do not get angry, because it's not really real. This, to me, is all "accepting what is" means: you do not take things personally and it cannot effect your inner peace.
But what if I DO get angry? That cool or naw? This is a serious question.
Who determined that we should accept everything except for not accepting everything?
This is an example of how a "spiritual ego" is still just an ego. Not trying to offend. In Jed terminology it's just further or back there depending on where you're at. Like try less. Imo
Good question. But since we're discussing this topic in the spirit of Jed, let me ask you this: How often does Jed get angry in his books? He disagrees, yes, and he lets his disagreement be known, yes, but he does not lose himself in anger. Ego loses itself and gets angry.
Nobody determined that we should accept of not accept anything, it's what occurs and appears to be so when you free yourself from ego's reign. Or, as jed puts it, you wake up.
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General Discussion / Re: Accepting what is
« on: March 19, 2026, 10:47:33 am »
If... (as Jed and a well known nursery rhyme says) Life is but a dream
And... Everything in a dream is not real
Then... Life is not real
That means: every thing in life is not real, including "the world" and "you" and "me" and whatever we do to each other or ourselves or the environment or whatever. "Accepting what is", to me, simply means that you accept that it is all a dream, an illusion, and it therefore does not matter enough to upset you. This does not mean you don't react to it, or take action against it (you can do that if you choose so, or you choose not to, and both choices are cool — that is also what is). It only means that, whatever the outcome of your reaction or actions, or the lack of it, you accept it for what it is. You do not get angry, because it's not really real. This, to me, is all "accepting what is" means: you do not take things personally and it cannot effect your inner peace.
And... Everything in a dream is not real
Then... Life is not real
That means: every thing in life is not real, including "the world" and "you" and "me" and whatever we do to each other or ourselves or the environment or whatever. "Accepting what is", to me, simply means that you accept that it is all a dream, an illusion, and it therefore does not matter enough to upset you. This does not mean you don't react to it, or take action against it (you can do that if you choose so, or you choose not to, and both choices are cool — that is also what is). It only means that, whatever the outcome of your reaction or actions, or the lack of it, you accept it for what it is. You do not get angry, because it's not really real. This, to me, is all "accepting what is" means: you do not take things personally and it cannot effect your inner peace.
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