Platos Kave

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Solid.

I like this.
 
 It's from Chase Hughes, a guy I've recently been watching some of his stuff.
 
"Let me ruin a little part of spirituality for you just really quick. Awakening when people talk about all this awakening stuff is unbelievably boring because there's no firework show. There's not a big cosmic moment. You don't find yourself sitting Indian style on a perfect beach. It's not something that makes you go out and buy a bunch of linen pants and bead necklaces and incense and maybe some sandals. Nothing explodes. Nothing gets hugely fixed and nothing dramatic really happens. But here's the one thing that happens. It's a shift in perspective.
 
 That's it. And that's exactly why most people, I think, never get it. Cuz perspective shifts don't feel super impressive. They don't feel a like a big spiritual thing. It definitely doesn't feel like we earned something. It just feels obvious when it happens. It's like realizing that this arrow that we've been fighting our whole life was just pointing the wrong way. And I think once people see it, there's nothing to celebrate. You don't feel special.
 
 And maybe you feel slightly embarrassed that you were fighting at all. And that's usually the first clue. Something real happened. and enlightenment.
 
 Even that big word enlightenment rarely feels flattering to anybody."
 
 What he doesn't mention here is the part that Jed caught - and what makes Jed's work a quantum shift away from the 'enlightenment' thing most are chasing - away from the part most focus on: the cleaning-up-afterwards part.
 
 The spiritual autolysis part.

Seems to me that every other animal on the planet is accepting of what is and they seem to get along fine, humans on the other hand have to "fix" everything and in the "fixing" tend to destroy everything.

Societies will never embrace acceptance of what is, only individuals can do that. The human horse is so far out of the barn so to speak... we are not going back to hunter-gatherer societies anytime soon (whose societies were closer to the acceptance of the "what is" principal than we will ever be IMHO)

Walt Whitman gets at it with this:

By Walt Whitman
from Song of Myself

I think I could turn and live with animals,
they are so placid and self-contain'd,
I stand and look at them long and long.

They do not sweat and whine about their condition,
They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins,
They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,
Not one is dissatisfied, not one is demented with the mania of owning things,
Not one kneels to another, nor to his kind that lived thousands of years ago,
Not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth.
Not one b!tches and moans for years and years about some government asking them to get vaccinated.  ( my addition)

So they show their relations to me and I accept them,
They bring me tokens of myself, they evince them plainly in their possession.

I wonder where they get those tokens,
Did I pass that way huge times ago and negligently drop them?

What I am getting at when I advise myself to live in acceptance of what is, is a movement back to a simpler "huge times ago" to regain my "tokens", just for me and my well being, nothing to do with society; that train is on a crash course to nowhere and I'm not interested in that, other than being an observer of life as it flows around this

So to me it's personal, accepting what is, and it works so well that I have no need of anything else. For you and your collective idea for humanity, I see why you find it unworkable, but I also see that you don't bring forth a solution either? could it be that there isn't a solution to the human problem other than singularly waking up to what works for the animals?

Hmmm.

Hi Crystal, please break it down for me. What makes it a ‘door closer’ for you? I can’t help thinking we have only a communication problem here on this point and not a philosophical or ethical disagreement.

…Or (fresh thought, that just occurred to me) has the Marxist penchant for misappropriating well known terms seeped into the discourse and salted the metaphysical earth…? And is it now insisting on a newly ‘fixed’ meaning for what ‘acceptance’ must irrevocably mean…?

Yesterday I came across a podcast that were talking about “accepting what is”. They share my same sentiments. It is a door closer. Humanity can never progress unless people stop accepting what is. Finally I found  another source that agrees with me. Phew what a relief. Ha ha.